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From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)
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Subject: Re: Can You Help?
Date: 2 Feb 1998 20:58:36 GMT
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In article <886424243snz@inf-eden.demon.co.ux>,
Chris Kennington - newshound <Newz@inf-eden.demon.co.uk.snip> wrote:
: In article <886414956.15186.0.nnrp-05.9e986860@news.demon.co.uk>
: gary@cherokee.demon.co.uk "Gary Burkey" writes:
: "I have been using Kermit on my PC to remotely access our mainframe. I have
: "recently upgraded my PC to a HP Vetctra VL (P166MMX) with 47M Ram. The
: "system has a sound card as well as a CD-ROM Drive, running Win 95. When I
: "enter Kermit from the DOS prompt I instantly get a 'divide overflow'
: "message.
:
This is an FAQ on the Kermit newsgroup, which Chris K kindly pulled in to
this thread.
: When you say "using Kermit", do you mean the genuine original
: implementation of Kermit for the IBM-PC (Version 3.13 or something)
: from Columbia, or another implementation, or a "Kermit-protocol"
: insert into some other comms package? Kermit, although now
: pretty dated...
:
Harrumph! Them's fighting words. The Kermit Project is more active than
ever, the software is updated continually, and it is being put to more uses
in the modern world than some people might think, due to:
(a) its portability across hundreds of platforms;
(b) its media independence (serial port, modem, TCP/IP, X.25, etc);
(c) its automation features.
: ... was a brilliant high-reliability solution to the
: problems of remote access between differing computers; but it was
: both a file-transfer protocol and a pretty complete communications
: shell. (There were at least 500 implementations on various
: computers; I personally wrote 3.5 or them.)
:
Indeed you did!
: Many of the "Kermit inserts" in other packages were of low quality.
:
And remain so.
: There is a very easy way to get a divide overflow, and this is by
: using some sort of processing-speed test designed for a slower m/c...
:
That's more or less it, but it's been corrected for some time now.
However, readers of demon.tech.pc should also be aware that there is a new
32-bit native Kermit program for Windows 95 and NT (and OS/2) -- Kermit 95:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html
This one understands long filenames, is a Winsock client, does Telnet and
Rlogin (and LAT and CTERM, etc) as well as serial ports and modems, and it
is also a TAPI client, emulates 35 different terminals, and on and on.
: "Two of my colleagues have identical systems excluding the MMX chip and
: "manage to run Kermit okay. A third colleague has a Vectra VL (P166MMX)
: "minus the sound card and CD-ROM and also gets a 'divide overflow' message.
:
: Are they on the same Win95, calling Kermit in the same way?
:
The current version of MS-DOS Kermit for DOS and Windows 3.x is 3.15:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/mskermit.html
It does not get divide overflow errors.
: If you really wanted me to, I could probably dig out the
: Kermit source (which is in 'C')...
:
MS-DOS Kermit is in assembler, but with the TCP/IP stack coded in C.
: You might even try referring the problem to Columbia. As of 1992, the
: Columbia University Centre for Computing Activities was still in full
: flow; by now they are probably on the web.
:
We are indeed:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/
: There are also a couple of NGs "comp.protocols.kermit.???" which might be
: of help. And an "au.kermit.???".
comp.protocols.kermit.misc Unmoderated (and quite active)
comp.protocols.kermit.announce Moderated (for announcements)
I'm not sure about the au.kermit and fj.kermit groups -- we can't see them
from here, but maybe they are active.
: "Is there anyway that I can get around this problem?
: Let's hope so. I still use Kermit for all initial testing of modems.
:
: Chris Kennington (newshound) 01491 574065
: You can mail me with suitable modifications to header-addresses,
: or to "chris <at> inf-eden.demon.co.uk", replacing the <at>.
Good to hear from you again. It's been a while!
- Frank